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	<title>Comments on: Fujifilm Finepix A920, high performance but easy to use entry-level camera</title>
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		<title>By: markp</title>
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		<description>Nooooooo....

I had the next one down from this, the 825, as a Christmas present last year...

Within a month I&#039;d had to swap it for a Canon 720IS, which has proved to simply be a superior machine, and just as easy to use. Slightly chunkier, yes, but worth an insignificant increase in pocket bulge. It&#039;s no bigger than a typical 35mm point-and-shoot of 10 years ago.

Problems with these Fuji models... well, the interface is just fine. Nice and quick and snappy. Unless you want to set any &quot;manual&quot; settings, whereupon you find it&#039;s basically a slightly more capable version of Program mode on an honestly labelled camera. I can&#039;t even remember if you could set shutter priority - if you could, it was pretty limited (max of 8 seconds? 5? completely useless for shooting flashless at night anyway... not something a noob would have much use for i guess, but it&#039;s nice to be able to experiment). 

Most of the differenct scene modes seemed to do the same thing as each other. Not sure what that&#039;s about.

Very limited picture size/compression options, only a single level of compression for most of the limited range of resolutions, or a choice between &quot;normal&quot; (basic-to-normal for most other cameras, i think) or &quot;fine&quot; (only the merest smidge over normal on everything else... still disappointing in terms of fine detail) on the highest res setting. Completely unsuitable for those who don&#039;t like jpg artefacts, though it does have the camera-selling false benefit of offering more shots per memory card at the same rez as one that can do a decent low-compression mode (including at lower resolutions if you&#039;re after removing some of the sensor noise but keeping the chunkier pixels undistorted).

Horrendous sensor noise and lots of oversmoothing to compensate. I know the film grain look is &quot;in&quot;, but it seemed to go straight for the ISO jugular in a lot of cases without recommending/enabling flash or increasing exposure time. And as it goes through 400 to ISO 800 and beyond, with 8mpx and a tiny sensor, a lot of noise results. Which it then smooths (at pretty much ALL ISOs as far as i can tell), leaving an image like an oil painting when you try to zoom into it and an effective resolution probably closer to 4mpx if not 2mpx - why not just recco reducing it in the first place?

The underlying problem linking some of these issues is a lack of optical image stabilisation. What it&#039;s &quot;image stabiliser&quot; mode seems to do is lock the exposure time to a maximum of 1/15s, then bump up the ISO to suit the detect light level. That&#039;s it. There may be a little more electronic trickery behind the scenes to slightly improve it further, but I doubt it - I managed a few &quot;stabilised&quot; pictures in reasonably well lit midnight rooms that were both super grainy AND had terrible shake/motion blur.

Don&#039;t even get me started on movie mode.

I do, however, miss the ability to tweak the screen brightness. The zoom is pretty good, battery life is respectable too. And it does look nice.

I&#039;m not sure of this thing&#039;s market placing. It&#039;d be a decent starter camera, but it seems to want to place itself as more of that, with supposedly advanced features (that it just doesn&#039;t have - my previous died-of-old-age 5mpx Samsung was more capable except for not having the false super-sensitivity) and a huge pixel count, and a bit of a raised price. Schizoid ambitions but only one reality. If you find it really cheap somewhere - or better yet, one of the 5~8 mpx predecessors for even less - and you only ever want a full-auto point and shooter that you&#039;ll set &amp; forget on &quot;maximum quality&quot;, then go right ahead. Otherwise I&#039;d suggest looking at *anything* else first, particularly anything with real OIS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nooooooo&#8230;.</p>
<p>I had the next one down from this, the 825, as a Christmas present last year&#8230;</p>
<p>Within a month I&#8217;d had to swap it for a Canon 720IS, which has proved to simply be a superior machine, and just as easy to use. Slightly chunkier, yes, but worth an insignificant increase in pocket bulge. It&#8217;s no bigger than a typical 35mm point-and-shoot of 10 years ago.</p>
<p>Problems with these Fuji models&#8230; well, the interface is just fine. Nice and quick and snappy. Unless you want to set any &#8220;manual&#8221; settings, whereupon you find it&#8217;s basically a slightly more capable version of Program mode on an honestly labelled camera. I can&#8217;t even remember if you could set shutter priority &#8211; if you could, it was pretty limited (max of 8 seconds? 5? completely useless for shooting flashless at night anyway&#8230; not something a noob would have much use for i guess, but it&#8217;s nice to be able to experiment). </p>
<p>Most of the differenct scene modes seemed to do the same thing as each other. Not sure what that&#8217;s about.</p>
<p>Very limited picture size/compression options, only a single level of compression for most of the limited range of resolutions, or a choice between &#8220;normal&#8221; (basic-to-normal for most other cameras, i think) or &#8220;fine&#8221; (only the merest smidge over normal on everything else&#8230; still disappointing in terms of fine detail) on the highest res setting. Completely unsuitable for those who don&#8217;t like jpg artefacts, though it does have the camera-selling false benefit of offering more shots per memory card at the same rez as one that can do a decent low-compression mode (including at lower resolutions if you&#8217;re after removing some of the sensor noise but keeping the chunkier pixels undistorted).</p>
<p>Horrendous sensor noise and lots of oversmoothing to compensate. I know the film grain look is &#8220;in&#8221;, but it seemed to go straight for the ISO jugular in a lot of cases without recommending/enabling flash or increasing exposure time. And as it goes through 400 to ISO 800 and beyond, with 8mpx and a tiny sensor, a lot of noise results. Which it then smooths (at pretty much ALL ISOs as far as i can tell), leaving an image like an oil painting when you try to zoom into it and an effective resolution probably closer to 4mpx if not 2mpx &#8211; why not just recco reducing it in the first place?</p>
<p>The underlying problem linking some of these issues is a lack of optical image stabilisation. What it&#8217;s &#8220;image stabiliser&#8221; mode seems to do is lock the exposure time to a maximum of 1/15s, then bump up the ISO to suit the detect light level. That&#8217;s it. There may be a little more electronic trickery behind the scenes to slightly improve it further, but I doubt it &#8211; I managed a few &#8220;stabilised&#8221; pictures in reasonably well lit midnight rooms that were both super grainy AND had terrible shake/motion blur.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t even get me started on movie mode.</p>
<p>I do, however, miss the ability to tweak the screen brightness. The zoom is pretty good, battery life is respectable too. And it does look nice.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure of this thing&#8217;s market placing. It&#8217;d be a decent starter camera, but it seems to want to place itself as more of that, with supposedly advanced features (that it just doesn&#8217;t have &#8211; my previous died-of-old-age 5mpx Samsung was more capable except for not having the false super-sensitivity) and a huge pixel count, and a bit of a raised price. Schizoid ambitions but only one reality. If you find it really cheap somewhere &#8211; or better yet, one of the 5~8 mpx predecessors for even less &#8211; and you only ever want a full-auto point and shooter that you&#8217;ll set &amp; forget on &#8220;maximum quality&#8221;, then go right ahead. Otherwise I&#8217;d suggest looking at *anything* else first, particularly anything with real OIS.</p>
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